What is the difference in setting up line art for color?

[Eagle]

Yes, but a forum software upgrade did away with it. It'll be back.

[SeanE]

Yes, but a forum software upgrade did away with it. It'll be back.

so will the father, son and holey goat - and I reckon they'll be back first...

[JHFerry]

Ok so what about setting that line art for rgb, is it that different than cmyk? Sweeney's site almost made it sound like it was.

[Sweeney]

Ok so what about setting that line art for rgb, is it that different than cmyk? Sweeney's site almost made it sound like it was.

My setup for working in RGB is a little different because of the fun with ink limits. Since my ink limits are set up with very little black, having a lineart layer with CMYK preview turned on means your lineart won't look black - it will look a little washed out.

I keep the lineart as a channel, with the channel preview (eyeball) turned on. Since the lineart is set up in a channel it isn't affected by CMYK preview and it looks solid black.

If you were to do this with a lineart layer, your color perception might be affected since it doesn't look solid black. You can see the difference below - with CMYK preview turned on, the lineart looks more like dark grey. Turn it off, and it looks black.



I only create a lineart layer near the end when I want to do color holds, as having the lineart in a channel means you can't see the color hold until you turn off the eyeball on the lineart channel.

When I convert to RGB, I run an action that does the lineart and trapping layers for me, with the proper CMYK colors.

[JHFerry]

So for the file setup you follow similar steps as CMYK but leave the lineart Layer until later? So what do you do with the background layer? Fill it white and then start coloring on a new Layer on top of that set to darken?

[Sweeney]

So for the file setup you follow similar steps as CMYK but leave the lineart Layer until later? So what do you do with the background layer? Fill it white and then start coloring on a new Layer on top of that set to darken?

My layer list (before color holds) would look something like:

FX Layer(s) (if any)
Color Layer(s) (could be one, or 17 layers - THe color layer at the bottom of this list is set to Normal Mode)
Bottom Layer - Flats

I never set My color layer (if I have only one) to Multiply/Darken mode. That is only for Inked lineart over top of a color layer, so that the black inks overprint the color, instead of blocking them out.

[JHFerry]

Like this?


If correct, let me ask another question. First off, I decided for now to work in RGB. So I went searching around this forum to see the proper way to apply a texture. I realize most of you guys use brushes etc. I came across the Clipping/Layer Mask method in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10875&p=100084&hilit=textures#p100084

Its basically just pasting the texture image, changing mode to overlay (change layer to greyscale) appying a clipping mask, then adding a layer mask filling it with Black to erase it all so you can paint it in with white. I could not get this to work, the bottom (flats) layer blocks it out.



How would you apply a picture texture using this file setup method?

[PeterK]

The way you have the clipping group applied in your example, means that the texture is only being applied to wherever your lineart is. (assuming "Lines" is your lineart) The way the clipping group works is that pixels on the clipped layer will only show in places where there are pixels on the layer it is clipped to. Any areas of transparency on the layer below means that those areas are automatically hidden on the layer above.

[JHFerry]

Ok, I get it now. What I did was just place the clipping mask layer above the flats. That seems to work. So now for the last thing, how do properly convert to CMYK and trap? I assume you trap from the channels after you convert?