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How Did they Do THIS??!!

Postby dogstar » Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:38 pm

Ok One more question.

Check this out, no I didn't do it. :(

http://www.joemadfan.com/exarch/exarchposter.jpg


I've been wracking my brain and thrashing my computer programs trying to recreate this effect.

I have both Painter and photoshop but nether seems to be doing this right. Any ideas of what tools were used? I almost achieved it with the paintbrush and then with the smear tool using the chalk brush...but it still wasn't quite right.

I'd love to hear any ideas. Thanks!! :D
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Postby Scott Johnson » Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:08 pm

Are you trying to reproduce that look with a mouse?



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Postby dogstar » Thu Aug 07, 2003 6:36 pm

No I have a wacom tablet, a good one. tho my computer is kinda slow so I color first in 100 or 150 dpi before upping it to 300 for printing purposes. I know the system is going to have some effect (being my comp is around 4 years old now) but would it have THAT much of a difference? I know the higher dpi helps even after you rez it back down but ...man that'd be a real change!
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Postby Scott Johnson » Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:05 pm

Well, that's a really nice poster, but I don't see anything there that can't be done with Photoshop and a Wacom. Is there a particular effect you are referring to, or are you just trying to mimick the overall effect?
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Postby John Rauch » Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:08 pm

Scott Johnson wrote:Well, that's a really nice poster, but I don't see anything there that can't be done with Photoshop and a Wacom. Is there a particular effect you are referring to, or are you just trying to mimick the overall effect?


Ditto. It's a very nice job, but it's nothing unattainable in Painter or PS. I'd say they have a fairly hard edged brush, a soft one, and a few for texture. Other than that, it looks like they just painted.
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Postby dogstar » Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:22 pm

Mmmm. Good question. Mostly what intriques me most about the image is the colors, so rich and layered almost like real paint (but with that groovy digital look). Let's start with the lavendar elf on the left. Granted I think a lot of what makes this look different than most computer colors is the fact there are few lines actually left. (no bold ink lines) it seems they set back to sepia or lighter hues where they remain. Any way with the elf, she's got some harsh highlights or straight out white lines which is pretty easy to figure out. However the rest of the blended/ rich over lapping colors I can't seem to reproduce. I've tried air brush, I've tried the paint brush alone and a combo of the two. I've even used the smear tool but it just isn't happening. I'll try to finsh up what I have as a sample and post it when I get home. Till then any thoughts of which tools were used on the flesh tones in general? Thanks! :D
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Postby Scott Johnson » Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:45 pm

Welcome to the world of Photoshop painting. :) If you think that poster looks like paint, check out what this guy does with Photoshop and a Wacom:
http://www.mattstawicki.com/gallery.htm
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Postby KarmaPolice » Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:07 pm

Yeah Dogstar, these guys are right about the programs used, it's pretty much one or the other or both...not to mention it's a process. Same as the regular comic coloring-look, it's just a different process. I barely use photoshop any more because I like the fact that I totally suck at painter. But I am sure you can get that look on the new photoshops as well. Take a look at some of these links. They have some good example of digitally painted works on them (some might be painted with real pigment?) The seegmiller guy has a book out on digital painting, it's probably one of the best I've seen. Look at Scott's website too, he's got some really rad stuff on there!

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http://www.seegmillerart.com

http://www.goodbrush.com

http://www.scottjohnsonart.com

http://www.summertimebooks.com/gallery.html

http://www.jo-chen.com

http://www.imphead.com/about/blendboywip/bb1.html

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Postby Scott Johnson » Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:54 pm

Thanks KarmaPolice. Actually, dogstar should have a look at the stuff you've been posting on this board. Those Heavy Metal pages are nice.

Here's a few more guys that work guys that work in Painter and Photoshop, either exclusively or in combination with traditional paints:

http://www.beetart.com
http://www.joecorroney.com
http://www.justinsweet.com
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Postby Xao' » Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:21 am

Scott, do you keep any Hi-Res versions of your black and white pictures? I'd like to try and colour a few if that would be okay.
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Postby WhoIsRico » Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:25 am

hey dogstar-
are there any local painting classes you could take? i think understanding a bit about building forms in real life would help you work out a painting style in a program. also, if you're looking for a technique to knock out the line art check out dave's method over here http://www.dave-co.com/gutterzombie/viewtopic.php?t=133
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Postby MBirkhofer » Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:59 am

I've never seen Stawicki, Scott. Thanks for the link!
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Postby dogstar » Fri Aug 08, 2003 11:26 am

Wow! I was going to tagg on if any body knew of any books or other web sites on digital painting techniques but it looks as if y'll beat me to the punch. Much thanks guys!



Goes to start looking over them all. Oh and WhoIsRico, Yes there probably are some schools or courses about here but I've already got my degree and school and the loans that come with it really arn't an option for me right now. =( Thanks for the suggestion it is appreciated. I'm going to see if I can invest in some books and poke around here and those web sites more. I think I've gotten more out of this bboard than I ever did in my graphics classes. Unfortunatly sequential art or even digital painting was kind of beyond their scope. Live and Learn. ;D
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Postby Laura » Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:48 pm

I just ordered Seegmiller's book, even tho I have Clue Zero about Painter. Thanks for the link, Mike!

Jo Chen and Craig Mullins make me wanna cry on a daily basis. Now Seegmiller makes me wanna cry too. No wonder I don't do much digital painting -- I'm too busy crying! :)

Love all these links! Keep 'em coming!

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Postby Gravence » Sat Aug 09, 2003 11:56 pm

http://www.Digitalart.org This place will take care of any ego...
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