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Batgirl, Spider-Woman and Avengers Ladies

Postby sdowner » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:05 pm

Hey zombies.
Mark dos Santos commissioned me to color these posters for him to use at SDCC a few weeks back.
I had a great time with 'em, and I think they turned out really well- some of my best work to date.
Let me know what you think! Crits and comments very welcome.

Batgirl & Spider-Woman, in the style of Alfonse Mucha
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Lines and concept by Mark dos Santos, colors by Steve-O

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Lines by Mark dos Santos, colors by Steve-O
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Re: Batgirl, Spider-Woman and Avengers Ladies

Postby julia_sevin » Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:30 pm

I like 'em a lot! You got lucky, those are some gorgeous pieces. The soft curves really demand that you shade very properly, and I think you've pretty much nailed it in both cases. The pink light on Spider-Woman seems arbitrary, and the hair is hit or miss to my taste (I like the shadows and highlights to be really bold and loose). Black Widow's hair is just about perfect.

I like the cool shadows you put to the Avengers' flesh, and the decisive way you've cut the shades into the skin. The ivory skin tone is very nice, but somehow with that cool shadow seems just a *little* on the jaundiced side.

Overall: :ice: :ice: :ice:
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Re: Batgirl, Spider-Woman and Avengers Ladies

Postby Ryan » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:33 pm

I think these two pieces are really nice, Steve. The only thing that's kind of bothering me are the jawlines of the characters in the second pin-up. I wonder if there's anyway you can downplay them a little bit more. So many of the lines have color holds that the thick black lines on Scarlett Witch and Black Widow jaws are kind of jumping out at me. Hard-edged, square jaws are not usually considered a very feminine characteristic. It's especially creating a weird effect with Scarlett Witch, like her face is floating above her hair or something.

Anyway, that's more of a nitpick, though. I think this work is very good. Nice job.
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Re: Batgirl, Spider-Woman and Avengers Ladies

Postby Chriss Cornish » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:15 pm

Really nice. I agree with Ryan about the second pin up; I felt there was something odd about Scarlet Witch but couldn't figure out what it was until Ryan mentioned the jaw lines.

I like the color on the first pin up, but my two cents would be that the highlights on the side of Bat Girl's cape seem too bright/yellow to me. When I first saw them, I couldn't figure out what those shapes were. Is her cape ripped? Does she have a pattern on the back? Than, I realized that it appears to be the same gold light that's on that side of Spider Girl. Maybe a little more blue in those highlights on the cape, to make it clear right away what those shapes are supposed to be.
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Re: Batgirl, Spider-Woman and Avengers Ladies

Postby Hi_Fi_Guy » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:17 pm

Very tastefully done. I don't know that the jawlines totally bother me but anytime you are rendering a woman's the smoother and simpler you can keep it is usually best. Adding 5% Magenta to the flesh tones might not be a bad idea either for that healthy glow.
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Re: Batgirl, Spider-Woman and Avengers Ladies

Postby sdowner » Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:35 am

Thanks for the comments, guys!
Julia: good points. The pink light on Spider-Woman isn't really a pink-colored light; I was attempting more of a cool white, but I don't think I pulled it off on the red portions of her costume. I'll try that again.

Are you talking about Spider-Woman's hair or everybody except Black Widow?
On Spider-Woman, I guess the shadow areas maybe aren't dark enough, and the spotted blacks seem a little out of place as a result? Otherwise I'm very happy with the hair.
I absolutely agree that the skin tones are a little too yellow. I'll add a touch more Magenta to 'em.

Ryan:
I never actually noticed until you said something... now I can't stop seeing it. Mark asked for "colored lines, like Adam Hughes does", so I did put color holds on almost everything. I left the contour lines of everything black and held the interior details... it does make the heads seem a little disembodied. I'll play with it, but I'm not sure anything different will look good. Just holding the area where the jawline overlaps the neck might look weird... fading it out might work. Any suggestions?

Chriss:
Right on, man. Good catch, I'll adjust it.

Brian: Thanks! I still struggle with women's faces, so these were an excellent challenge for me.
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Re: Batgirl, Spider-Woman and Avengers Ladies

Postby julia_sevin » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:45 pm

I was talking about everyone's hair but Black Widow's. They each seem to be reacting to different laws and different lights. Spider-Woman's, in particular, has the same dark and light tones repeating both on the top where it should be much lighter and on the bottom where it should be more shadowed. BW's is much more intuitive, obeying the light.
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Re: Batgirl, Spider-Woman and Avengers Ladies

Postby robbdaman » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:20 pm

The only thing that really bugs me is the way he drew the Avenger Ladies boobs defying gravity. I believe Laura has complained about this type of thing before, it's just not "natural" for boobs to point straight out if a woman is lying down. That's not your fault of course Steve, I'm just saying. ;) Pretty cool work!
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Re: Batgirl, Spider-Woman and Avengers Ladies

Postby MBirkhofer » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:03 pm

Best yet I think Steve. Great job!
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