TSA

[monkeybutter]

TSA has reviewed the incident and the security officer in the video followed the current standard operating procedures.

Why is this still being allowed?

because it hasn't happened to anyone important yet and probably won't.

also because the idea that flying instead of driving or taking a train or what have you is something you can simply choose not to do is apparently accepted as reasonable by a lot of people.

the airlines dont like it any more than you. it makes everything very difficult for them. but bush decided creating yet another gov't agency was a good idea, so now it has to justify its existence.

I cant really think of the last time a governmental agency of the size of the TSA was dissolved, but that's what needs to happen.

[Eagle]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15/ts ... tml?hpt=T2

Arrogant complaining about airport security is one indicator Transportation Security Administration officers consider when looking for possible criminals and terrorists, CNN has learned exclusively. And, when combined with other behavioral indicators, it could result in a traveler facing additional scrutiny.

CNN has obtained a list of roughly 70 "behavioral indicators" that TSA behavior detection officers use to identify potentially "high risk" passengers at the nation's airports.

Many of the indicators, as characterized in open government reports, are behaviors and appearances that may be indicative of stress, fear or deception. None of them, as the TSA has long said, refer to or suggest race, religion or ethnicity.

But one addresses passengers' attitudes towards security, and how they express those attitudes.

It reads: "Very arrogant and expresses contempt against airport passenger procedures."

[Brian Frey ~ halfmoth]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15/tsa.screeners.complain/index.html?hpt=T2

Arrogant complaining about airport security is one indicator Transportation Security Administration officers consider when looking for possible criminals and terrorists, CNN has learned exclusively. And, when combined with other behavioral indicators, it could result in a traveler facing additional scrutiny.

CNN has obtained a list of roughly 70 "behavioral indicators" that TSA behavior detection officers use to identify potentially "high risk" passengers at the nation's airports.

Many of the indicators, as characterized in open government reports, are behaviors and appearances that may be indicative of stress, fear or deception. None of them, as the TSA has long said, refer to or suggest race, religion or ethnicity.

But one addresses passengers' attitudes towards security, and how they express those attitudes.

It reads: "Very arrogant and expresses contempt against airport passenger procedures."

Causation something something correlation... Assholes.

[Eagle]

They're doing it to babies because of course they are.

And of course there's no way they can detect a patty of C4 in the diaper, either with the porno scanners or a pat-down. So really, why the fuck bother?

[Eagle]

And they're defending it...

http://news.lp.findlaw.com/ap_stories/o ... 01_05.html

The baby's stroller set off an alert of possible traces of explosives Saturday, so the screeners were justified in taking a closer look at the boy cradled in his mother's arms, said Nick Kimball, a spokesman for the Transportation Security Administration.

Lowering the Bar adds:

And because this is the TSA and we are a nation of lunatics, standard procedure in that situation is apparently to check the baby and not the explosives detector.

Wait, explosives detector? Is that the puffy air thing that jumbles your clothes and sucks up any loose particles? Are we back to those, now? I thought they worked.

[Zombie Dave McCaig]

Wonder what set it off. There's something in many baby strollers that sets off anti-theft detectors in stores - wonder if it's the same thing.

Maybe it was a strip of magnesium or something. I know that magnesium can false-trip anti-theft towers, and bomb sniffers would definitely be looking for magnesium.

Why do I know this and the TSA does not?

[monkeybutter]

Wonder what set it off. There's something in many baby strollers that sets off anti-theft detectors in stores - wonder if it's the same thing.

Maybe it was a strip of magnesium or something. I know that magnesium can false-trip anti-theft towers, and bomb sniffers would definitely be looking for magnesium.

Why do I know this and the TSA does not?

because the TSA dudes are minimum-wage rule-following automatons who aren't paid to think

[monkeybutter]

If Light A turns on during Procedure B, complete section C and retry procedure B. If line monkeys question procedure, tell them you're keeping them safe from danger.


that's the TSA drone thought process in its entirety

[Eagle]

Welp... The guy who had piss dumped on him last November just had it done again:

http://www.freep.com/article/20110723/N ... -bag-again

A man with bladder cancer whose humiliating security pat down at Detroit Metro Airport ended with urine from his urostomy bag spilled on him said Friday that he was mishandled again by a screener last week.

Thomas Sawyer of Houghton Lake made national news in November when a security agent's aggressive pat down caused the lid of his urostomy bag to loosen, spilling urine on his shirt and pants. Transportation Security Administration head John Pistole personally called Sawyer to apologize and pledge an investigation into how screeners handle passengers with sensitive medical conditions.

"I thought that I had really made a difference for people flying with urostomies, I really did," the 62-year-old told the Free Press on Friday. "I'm angry this time. They can't be training them properly."

Sawyer said he went through security July 14 at the McNamara Terminal for a flight to Orlando -- the same destination he was flying to in November -- and a screener disregarded his warning that he had a urostomy bag beneath his untucked shirt.